matrix-rust-sdk VS matterbridge

Yep, a good example is the element X rewrite

They use Jetpack on Android

https://github.com/vector-im/element-x-android

And SwiftUI on iOS

https://github.com/vector-im/element-x-ios

But both use the same underlying Matrix Rust SDK

https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-rust-sdk

So they share the core part of the app between platforms, but everything user facing is native

The one place eyebal is already being used is matrix-rust-sdk, mostly for bits of the API that act as a model for specific UI parts in apps built on top of it. A part of those APIs is also using observable vectors from eyeball-im, which I didn't mention initially because it's not as well-documented and polished.

Hello everyone, I am finally making it to all of the great talks about Matrix from FOSDEM 23, and one thing that seemed like an obvious thing that could be built on some of the new projects works (matrix-rich-text-editor, matrix-rust-sdk) is a collaborative (multi-user, live edits) document tool built ontop of rust. That said, I haven't seen any project doing this yet. Does anyone know of one?

Another important piece of the ecosystem for which Rust was used is the SDK. This new SDK was used to write the newest mobile client - Element X. The current Element client will also see its cryptography implementation being changed from Javascript to Rust, this was also made possible by the new Rust based SDK.

Let's say I'll switch as soon as they start using Sanakirja. They're partially right in their analysis of Sanakirja, but their comments are more about the lack of expressiveness of the unsafe keyword in Rust than about Sanakirja itself. I'm preparing a blog post about my dream version of unsafe.

>Well I care, that does not mean that you have to care.

The point I'm making is that the protocol being implement-able by yourself or grabbing a lib from someone else is moot, since you will 9 times out of 10 use a library.

>Again, look at the lack of client diversity for Matrix and tell me that you do not think that there is at least some correlation in terms of the complexity of the protocol.

The problem is not client diversity for Matrix - there's plenty of them. The problem is that Matrix is more than displaying a log on a screen, and most of the clients are frankly abysmal and could use a trained UI/UX owner.

>last I checked it meant using either Python or Go

The Rust SDK has worked well for me, although I can't state how close it is to Python or Go's libs. That said, I know I'm certainly not the only one using it.

The Rust lib could be wrapped into other languages (e.g, Ruby) if there's not a good SDK for that language. I don't really consider this to be an issue, especially considering the Rust SDK is maintained by the Matrix org themselves.

https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-rust-sdk

>Add to this that the more mandatory features you have and keep adding

Don't maintain your own bespoke library and you won't have to. :)

>But I am not going to behave as if images, reactions, code blocks, threads, end-to-end encryption, voice calls, video calls, etc. do not come at a cost.

They do come at a cost, but that's the price of admission for what people expect from modern chat systems. I'd rather live in 2022 than 2004, and I grew up on IRC.

I'm not entirely sure what I plan to use Rust with at the moment, however my first project so far has been to write a Matrix bot using the matrix-rust-sdk library :)

Just for everyone else reading, the modern Matrix Rust stack referred to here is the matrix-rust-sdk: https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-rust-sdk

The current way we're approaching this is to split the reference E2EE implementation into its own rust crate (https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-rust-sdk/tree/master/ma...) which can be used with any SDK (e.g. we're almost finished embedding it into the Kotlin matrix-android-sdk2 client)

Separately, there's also the overall matrix-rust-sdk https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-rust-sdk for clients to use as a "full fat" Matrix client SDK - as used by Fractal Next (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/fractal/-/tree/fractal-next) etc. We might end up using this in Element too in future (especially in Element iOS, where a Swift UI + matrix-rust-sdk backend could be quite a cute next generation architecture).

So while the first generation reference Matrix SDKs (matrix-js-sdk, matrix-ios-sdk and matrix-android-sdk) were completely independent implementations, each with their own bugs and increased audit surface, we're hoping that matrix-rust-sdk will simplify this a lot in future.

All of them. :)

https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge

An involved alternative is to access whatsapp through a matrix bridge. It requires either paying for hosting or figuring out how to host a matrix server and the whatsapp bridge [1]; I do the latter and can attest it's not very hard if you have a technical background (and you're on hn, so you probably do), but YMMV. There's a lot of matrix clients, all of which open source; and the whatsapp bridge works really well nowadays, enough that I've been using it almost exclusively for my texting (no whatsapp calls tho).

In fact, I recently bought a non-smartphone running KaiOS, and use whatsapp through a matrix client, chooj - which, although in early alpha, works well for my use case of accessing whatsapp while outside the home without having to carry an addictive smartphone with me. KaiOS does have a native whatsapp app, but it does not support whatsapp web at all, and that is an absolute necessity for me, especially when typing requires (bad) T9.

My point is, matrix bridges afford A LOT of freedom with how to access whatsapp (and other closed-source communication apps), if you're willing to deal with some friction. And now they're stable and mature enough that they work pretty darn well - no doubt thanks in part to support from beeper [2], which funds development for several major bridges. Within the android ecosystem, beeper is probably the easiest way to gateway all your communications through matrix, though I have no experience with it. Sounds like paid matrix+bridge hosting, plus a generally much nicer and frictionless experience.

[1]: https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge

[2]: https://www.beeper.com/

We use matterbridge to bridge IRC to matrix at https://tetaneutral.net

https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge

It's a chat bridge for different platforms. https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge

I personally use matterbridge to bridge between specific IRC channels and specific discord server channels, and run it on a FreeBSD server. Packages are available for it on the BSDs and major Linux distributions. Follow the instructions for configuration and enable its service as appropriate on the OS.

https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge perhaps?

Hi, I'm looking for an easy to use automation tool for my company. There are tons of projects out there and I find it hard to pick one among them. I found : - hugging - n8n - beehive - flogo - metterbridge - node-red

As for the use case op hopes for -- the matterbridge project might be relevant. Ideally, you could migrate the history to a Mattermost server and set up the bridge. The Mattermost server will log all future communications automatically. The benefit of this over a pure archive (HTML or PDF type) is that the archive itself is a full-featured workspace ready to be used standalone at any time, should any issues arise from Slack.

Oh, interesting! It seems like an alternative to MatterBridge but for 1 to 1 bridging.