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Avalonia
webview | Avalonia | |
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69 | 258 | |
12,189 | 24,133 | |
1.5% | 1.6% | |
8.4 | 9.9 | |
about 1 month ago | about 20 hours ago | |
C | C# | |
MIT License | MIT License |
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webview
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Why Bloat Is Still Software's Biggest Vulnerability
You can create the webview using each platforms native GUI toolkit and setup JS communication yourself OR you can use a lightweight library that does it for [1] (search its README for language "bindings").
[1] https://github.com/webview/webview
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Ask HN: Do we still need Electron?
Each platform has it's own webview control available as a shared library installed with the OS.
MacOS has WKWebKit based on WebKit.
Windows has WebView2 based on Edge/Chromium.
Linux has webkit2gtk based on WebKit.
Tools like Tauri use a simple cross-platform single-header abstraction called webview.h[1].
Electron no longer allows Node.js to be called from renderer processes, all communication with Node.js is done via IPC.
In this case, why do we still need Electron? Why does it have to be tied to V8/Node.js?
The fact that Chromium Embedded Framework exists and is third-party makes me think that Chromium wasn't designed for being embedded, and Electron is filling that gap.
This is elucidated here further here https://trac.webkit.org/wiki/WebKit2:
> it's difficult to reuse their work...if another WebKit-based application or another port wanted to do multiprocess based on Chromium WebKit, it would be necessary to reinvent or cut & paste a great deal of code.
It makes me think that perhaps WebKit was the better choice for embedding. The fact that Node used V8 made Chromium the choice, and that Node being called from the renderer was the original way of working. Maybe because WebKit didn't have a build for Windows was an issue too...
But now that we have Bun, perhaps it's time that WebKit becomes that browser target of choice for desktop apps on macOS.
Unless WebView2 for macOS arrives, which would have a more sane cross-platform story. WebView2 has a very large feature-set though which make take a while to implement for macOS.
[1]: https://github.com/webview/webview/blob/master/webview.h
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Nui C++ User Interface Library
Nui could base on this in theory. Nui uses https://github.com/webview/webview under the hood, which provides browser windows for linux, windows or mac. Nui adds some cmake to make the "in-browser" and "main-process" part appear seemless, as well adding a DSEL for the "in-browser" view part.
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[Golang] Recommandation de bibliothèque d'interface utilisateur légère
WebView 7k
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Did you hear about using a web browser as GUI using C99?
You mean something like this?
- Desktop apps with golang
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Neutralinojs – Build lightweight cross-platform desktop apps with JavaScript
Golang can compile to windows statically, and on Windows those bindings are using the MSWebView2 API (aka Microsoft Edge webview).
I know that you can also compile the webview.cc into a dll specifically, and link against that. But I'd never done with Visual C++ because I am cross-compiling from Linux to Windows.
The README of the webview/webview project refers to the WebView2 SDK on NuGet, however [1]
[1] https://github.com/webview/webview#windows-preparation
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The Quest for the Ultimate GUI Framework
The author shrugs off web tech (maybe because of electron bloat?) but you can avoid the bloat by using each platforms native web browser control. There are even cross-platform libraries that make creating the native control and cross-communication simple. These applications would be architecturally similar to Win32 apps using and communicating with a XAML Island, but the advantage of web tech is it's an open standard and WPF/WinUI is not.
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(Hayami.app) A tile-based mini browser. You can pin webpages and files on a screen together. Not for deep reading but for having a quick look at the latest information at any time.
For example, you could use a native webview (Edge WebView2 for Windows and WebKit for MacOS/Linux), which uses much less RAM than Electron.
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Should web developers learn Flutter instead of React Native/Electron for mobile/desktop apps?
From a more established company with more guaranteed long-term support than the web frameworks that solve the above problems (like Tauri and Webview)
Avalonia
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The search for easier safe systems programming
WPF is not the best example of open source, as some components are still closed source. Though it only runs on Windows, a closed source operating system, so perhaps that is not so important.
https://github.com/dotnet/wpf/issues/2554
That said, there are cross platform, open source .NET UI frameworks out there, including one that is inspired by WPF:
https://avaloniaui.net/
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Industrial Controller? Windows or Linux?
You might also want to look at AvaloniaUI[0] for a cross platform .NET GUI library. It is similar to WPF but much nicer to work with.
[0] https://github.com/AvaloniaUI/Avalonia
- Avalonia – Farewell to the .NET Foundation
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AvaloniaUI: Create Multi-Platform Apps with .NET
Production user here. There's no money gotchas. They're above reproach. In fact, I've received considerable free support from their devs on GitHub Issues [1].
The Avalonia business model is based on selling XPF, which runs WPF (Windows-only) apps on other platforms. That's very interesting to big corps with existing codebases.
See my comment [2]
[1] https://github.com/AvaloniaUI/Avalonia/issues
[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39246988#39249128
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.NET on Linux: What a Contrast
Yes, but the portable GUI frameworks by Microsoft themselves are generally not very good, and they tend to be abandoned after a couple of years.
Avalonia is developed outside of the Microsoft corporate madness and seems to be slowly becoming the defacto cross-platform framework because it is expected to last a bit longer than a manager's attention span: https://avaloniaui.net/
- Too many Mac apps are being built with Electron
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Ask HN: Do you have a problem you'd pay to have taken away?
Not my comment, but relevant here "The problem with compiling Skia to WASM is you'll lose any benefits of hardware graphics acceleration on the device."
(From https://github.com/AvaloniaUI/Avalonia/discussions/6831#disc... )
- Dezvoltare aplicatie desktop
- Ask HN: How to create web, mobile, and desktop apps from a single code base?
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.NET 8 – .NET Blog
It's a bit of a hit and miss as of today. CLI, back-end and natively compiled libraries (think dll/so/dylib or even .lib/.a - you can statically link NAOT binaries into other "unmanaged" code) work best, GUI - requires more work.
Avalonia[0] and MAUI[1] have known working templates with it, but YMMV.
[0] https://github.com/lixinyang123/AvaloniaAOT / https://github.com/AvaloniaUI/Avalonia/ / honorable mention https://github.com/VincentH-Net/CSharpForMarkup
[1] https://github.com/dotnet/maui (try out with just true in csproj - it is known to work e.g. on iOS)
What are some alternatives?
fyne - Cross platform GUI toolkit in Go inspired by Material Design
Uno Platform - Build Mobile, Desktop and WebAssembly apps with C# and XAML. Today. Open source and professionally supported.
imgui - Dear ImGui: Bloat-free Graphical User interface for C++ with minimal dependencies
Introducing .NET Multi-platform App UI (MAUI) - .NET MAUI is the .NET Multi-platform App UI, a framework for building native device applications spanning mobile, tablet, and desktop.
Lorca - Build cross-platform modern desktop apps in Go + HTML5
WPF - WPF is a .NET Core UI framework for building Windows desktop applications.
sciter - Sciter: the Embeddable HTML/CSS/JS engine for modern UI development
Eto.Forms - Cross platform GUI framework for desktop and mobile applications in .NET
tauri - Build smaller, faster, and more secure desktop applications with a web frontend.
MahApps.Metro - A framework that allows developers to cobble together a better UI for their own WPF applications with minimal effort.
wry - Cross-platform WebView library in Rust for Tauri.
Gtk# - Gtk# is a Mono/.NET binding to the cross platform Gtk+ GUI toolkit and the foundation of most GUI apps built with Mono