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  • waydroid

    Waydroid uses a container-based approach to boot a full Android system on a regular GNU/Linux system like Ubuntu.

  • I guess it depends on how much you use it?

    On the Linux phone itself, you can try out Waydroid https://waydro.id (and it seems to work on regular Linux too?).

    I also think there are Android Distros you can install in a VM as well (though I admit I have not tried it).

  • tauri

    Build smaller, faster, and more secure desktop applications with a web frontend.

  • Instead of Cordova, you might want to try Tauri. https://tauri.app/

  • InfluxDB

    Power Real-Time Data Analytics at Scale. Get real-time insights from all types of time series data with InfluxDB. Ingest, query, and analyze billions of data points in real-time with unbounded cardinality.

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  • wasm3

    🚀 A fast WebAssembly interpreter and the most universal WASM runtime

  • > This product family will never run Linux, as developers will need to develop a new firmware from scratch. This is obviously not a problem for the earbuds, but a big limitation for the player

    Perhaps not Linux, but I suspect there would be a place here for a Unix-like platform that feels familiar. If for example we could get wide-adoption of something like the JVM or wasm3 [0] on these platforms, code could become quite portable, despite wildly different architectures.

    For example, Apache's NuttX [1] (that I first learned from Lupyuen, a guy making great progress working with Pine64 products).

    > Processing wise, this chip is well sufficient for TWS headphones, but very inadequate for an audio player. It will not drive a good screen, it nor run high-resolution flacs or (probably?) support a high-quality, high-bandwidth codec. In fact, a first generation iPod Nano (retailing for $149 in 2006) had 16MB RAM, so over 16 times what the PinePod would offer. In fact, even the features of any custom firmware are limited from so little memory

    I wouldn't call it time just yet. Displays can be interacted with intelligently (to reduce pixel bandwidth) and ultra high quality audio codecs offer diminishing returns, especially when you don't have a DAC or headphones to make the most of them.

    My advice to Pine64 would be this:

    1. Consolidate your product lines. The Pinebook is just a slower Pinebook Pro, just go with the Pinebook Pro. The PineTab is just a Pinebook without the keyboard, again I would consolidate this with the Pinebook Pro and just make the keyboard detachable.

    2. The SBCs should just go straight into the device, thus creating a clear upgrade path for future products. If you want a PineBook Pro running Quartz, just swap the boards (of course with daughter boards for USB expansion, display driver, power, etc).

    3. Don't be afraid to kill off products. The Pinebook and PineTab have never seen a new release. The PinePhone appears to be taking a back seat to the PinePhone Pro. The PineCube is basically DoA due to the processing power struggling to process the camera image.

    More generally, try to do fewer things, but do them well.

    [0] https://github.com/wasm3/wasm3

    [1] https://nuttx.apache.org/docs/latest/

    [2] https://lupyuen.github.io/articles/sensor

  • IronOS

    Open Source Soldering Iron firmware

  • The Pinecil is Pine64’s most polished product, and I congratulate them for getting such a high-quality soldering iron down to such a low price point ($26).

    https://www.pine64.org/pinecil/

    Even if the Pinecil weren't open hardware running on open firmware, it would still be an incredible value. But it is, and I can't find a single thing to criticize about it.

    - Pinecil documentation and schematics: https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/Pinecil

    - IronOS: https://github.com/Ralim/IronOS

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