bevy_mod_scripting
rust-ecosystem
bevy_mod_scripting | rust-ecosystem | |
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5 | 8 | |
354 | 863 | |
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7.9 | 7.0 | |
8 days ago | about 1 month ago | |
Rust | Rust | |
Apache License 2.0 | Apache License 2.0 |
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bevy_mod_scripting
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3 years of fulltime Rust game development, and why we're leaving Rust behind
As someone who's become a core contributor to Bevy lately, while also doing contract work in Unity on the side, I obviously disagree with the idea that Rust isn't up to the task of game dev. The grass isn't greener on the Unity side, with a mountain of technical debt holding the engine back. (They're still using Boehm GC in 2024!) Bevy is a breath of fresh air just because it's relatively new and free of legacy. Using Rust instead of C++ is just one part of that. Bevy has a more modern design throughout: for instance, it has a relatively straightforward path to GPU-driven rendering in an integrated system, without having to deal with three incompatible render pipelines (BiRP, HDRP, URP).
What I find more interesting is the parts of the article that boil down to "Rust isn't the best language for rapid development and iteration speed". And that may well be true! I've long thought that the future of Bevy is an integrated Lua scripting layer [1]. You don't even need to get into arguments about the suitability of the borrow checker: it's clear that artists and designers aren't going to be learning Rust anytime soon. I'd like to see a world in which Rust is there for the low-to-mid-level parts that need performance and reliability, and Lua is there for the high-level logic that needs fast iteration, and it's all a nicely integrated whole.
Long-term, I think this world would actually put Bevy in a better place than the existing engines. Unity forces you into C# for basically everything, which is both too low-level for non-programmers to use and too high-level for performance-critical code (unless you have a source license, which no indie developer has). Unreal requires C++, which is even more difficult than Rust (IMO), or Blueprints, which as a visual programming language is way too high-level for anything but the simplest logic. Godot favors GDScript, which is idiosyncratic for questionable gain. I think Rust and Lua (or something similar) would put Bevy in a Goldilocks spot of having two languages that cover all the low-, mid-, and high-level needs well.
As for the other parts of the article, I disagree with the ECS criticism; ECS has some downsides, but the upsides outweigh the downsides in my view. I do agree that Bevy not having an official editor is an ongoing problem that desperately needs fixing. Personally, I would have prioritized the editor way higher earlier in Bevy's development. There is space_editor [2] now, which is something.
[1]: https://github.com/makspll/bevy_mod_scripting
[2]: https://github.com/rewin123/space_editor
- Open call for maintainers: bevy_mod_scripting
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Bevy 0.10: data oriented game engine built in Rust
So far, there are promising experiments like https://github.com/makspll/bevy_mod_scripting, but nothing's really caught fire in the community yet.
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Fyrox Game Engine 0.29
Interesting. Personally I find Rust-only pretty appealing, but people definitely have differing opinions: https://github.com/makspll/bevy_mod_scripting
- Repos using rlua/mlua
rust-ecosystem
- 3 years of fulltime Rust game development, and why we're leaving Rust behind
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Rust – Are We Game Yet?
These are issues that I'm aware of that are "tracking" the status of Rust on console:
* <https://github.com/rust-gamedev/wg/issues/90>
* <https://github.com/EmbarkStudios/rust-ecosystem/issues/18>
I say scare quote tracking because due to the nature of console NDAs it's unlikely you'll see much if any useful details in an open public forum.
The issues aren't dissimilar to those facing Godot (although it has the benefit it's able to use existing C++ compilers) and the project has previously outlined some of the issues involved:
* <https://docs.godotengine.org/en/4.0/tutorials/platform/conso...>
* <https://godotengine.org/article/godot-consoles-all-you-need-...>
The current "solution" seems to be console-related development activity occurring via the recently established W4 Games (https://w4games.com/2023/02/28/godot-support-for-consoles-is...) but that's obviously never going to be openly developed without console platform approval (same as any other game engine).
- Useful Clippy lint rules outside of defaults?
- More use of Rust is inevitable in open source software
- How I got involved in the Rust community
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What's the advantages of Rust over C/C++ today ? Is it possible to create the best 3d engine in Rust or a AAA game like Elden Ring, FF7 remake, GTA etc with it ? If it's possible why it asn't been done yet ?
Some companies are betting on Rust, like Embark Studio (though I'm not sure their next big game, ARC Raiders, is actually fully based on Rust... but it will come !)
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Why haven't the community created an open-source version of this game?
Next generation uses Rust https://github.com/EmbarkStudios/rust-ecosystem
- Embark Rust Ecosystem
What are some alternatives?
Blightmud - A terminal mud client written in Rust
downlords-faf-client - Official client for Forged Alliance Forever
bevy-inspector-egui - Inspector plugin for the bevy game engine
gdextension - Rust bindings for Godot 4 [Moved to: https://github.com/godot-rust/gdext]
kayak_ui
rx - 👾 Modern and minimalist pixel editor
tealr_doc_gen - an online documentation generator for apis written with tealr
bevy - A refreshingly simple data-driven game engine built in Rust
lotus - :zap: Fast Web Security Scanner written in Rust based on Lua Scripts :waning_gibbous_moon: :crab:
sqlite3-ocaml - OCaml bindings to the SQLite3 database
bevy_async_task - Cross-platform ergonomic abstractions for async programming in Bevy.
oxidator - RTS game/engine in Rust and WebGPU