impermanence VS spack

Compare impermanence vs spack and see what are their differences.

impermanence

Modules to help you handle persistent state on systems with ephemeral root storage [maintainer=@talyz] (by nix-community)

spack

A flexible package manager that supports multiple versions, configurations, platforms, and compilers. (by spack)
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impermanence spack
34 52
940 4,036
4.3% 1.7%
5.4 10.0
24 days ago 5 days ago
Nix Python
MIT License Apache-2.0 or MIT
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impermanence

Posts with mentions or reviews of impermanence. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-04-23.
  • Ask HN: How to Manage Phones and PCs for Elderly Parents?
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 23 Apr 2024
    You might want to set up NixOS with impermanence, with something like https://github.com/nix-community/impermanence. Install an easy to use desktop environment like ElementaryOS, and configure NixOS with or without Flatpak, if you want to give the user the ability to install new software or not. Then set up automatic updates, automatic garbage collection and you have a truly stable system.
  • Tvix – A New Implementation of Nix
    8 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 16 Apr 2024
    I would not call these projects unbelievable, but they are neat.

    - Opt-in state: https://github.com/nix-community/impermanence and https://grahamc.com/blog/erase-your-darlings/

  • Every NixOS rebuild creates a new Tailscale machine
    1 project | /r/NixOS | 11 Jul 2023
    That way will work - I use the impermanence module which works similarly but allows to hide mounts.
  • Silverblue users: why?
    4 projects | /r/Fedora | 23 Jun 2023
    This is indeed a blind spot. Thanks for pointing that out! Silverblue -to my knowledge- doesn't do a lot to address this. Though, 3rd-party tools like Home Manager and the suite of applications developed by the folks over at uBlue might be able to limit this to a minimum. Though I'm not sure if it surpasses NixOS in this regard; for the uninitiated. Though, to my knowledge, this requires special attention and depends on the specifics of the NixOS system in question.
  • NixOS for the Impatient
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 9 Jun 2023
    [3]: https://github.com/nix-community/impermanence
  • How to add impermanence afterwards?
    1 project | /r/NixOS | 16 May 2023
  • File system choice for Impermanence setup
    1 project | /r/NixOS | 20 Apr 2023
    I have recently stumbled upon Impermanence - modules to help you handle persistent state on systems with ephemeral root storage, and the concept seems quite nice.
  • Erase your darlings: Can this be applied to /home?
    1 project | /r/NixOS | 17 Apr 2023
    I haven't used it yet but nix-community/impermanence has a home-manager module that might be useful.
  • Interested in NixOS, have some questions
    3 projects | /r/NixOS | 4 Apr 2023
    Some files in /etc (like saved networks) will still not be managed by NixOS, if you want to have full control over them use Impermanence
  • Upgrading to NixOS 22.11 Issue
    5 projects | /r/NixOS | 24 Jan 2023
    { imports = [ (modulesPath + "/installer/scan/not-detected.nix") "${builtins.fetchGit { url = "https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-hardware.git"; }}/system76" "${builtins.fetchGit { url = "https://github.com/nix-community/impermanence.git"; }}/nixos.nix" ];

spack

Posts with mentions or reviews of spack. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-04-06.
  • Autodafe: "freeing your freeing your project from the clammy grip of autotools."
    4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 6 Apr 2024
    > Are we talking about the same autotools?

    Yes. Instead of figuring out how to do something particular with every single software package, I can do a --with-foo or --without-bar or --prefix=/opt/baz-1.2.3, and be fairly confident that it will work the way I want.

    Certainly with package managers or (FreeBSD) Ports a lot is taken care of behind the scenes, but the above would also help the package/port maintainers as well. Lately I've been using Spack for special-needs compiles, but maintainer ease also helps there, but there are still cases one a 'fully manual' compile is still done.

    > Suffice it to say, I prefer to work with handwritten makefiles.

    Having everyone 'roll their own' system would probably be worse, because any "mysteriously failure" then has to be debugged specially for each project.

    Have you tried Spack?

    * https://spack.io

    * https://spack.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

  • FreeBSD has a(nother) new C compiler: Intel oneAPI DPC++/C++
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 7 Mar 2024
    Well, good luck with that, cause it's broken.

    Previous release miscompiled Python [1]

    Current release miscompiles bison [2]

    [1] https://github.com/spack/spack/issues/38724

    [2] https://github.com/spack/spack/issues/37172#issuecomment-181...

  • Essential Command Line Tools for Developers
    29 projects | dev.to | 15 Jan 2024
    gh is available via Homebrew, MacPorts, Conda, Spack, Webi, and as a…
  • The Curious Case of MD5
    4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 3 Jan 2024
    > I can't count the number of times I've seen people say "md5 is fine for use case xyz" where in some counterintuitive way it wasn't fine.

    I can count many more times that people told me that md5 was "broken" for file verification when, in fact, it never has been.

    My main gripe with the article is that it portrays the entire legal profession as "backwards" and "deeply negligent" when they're not actually doing anything unsafe -- or even likely to be unsafe. And "tech" knows better. Much of tech, it would seem, has no idea about the use cases and why one might be safe or not. They just know something's "broken" -- so, clearly, we should update.

    > Just use a safe one, even if you think you "don't need it".

    Here's me switching 5,700 or so hashes from md5 to sha256 in 2019: https://github.com/spack/spack/pull/13185

    Did I need it? No. Am I "compliant"? Yes.

    Really, though, the main tangible benefit was that it saved me having to respond to questions and uninformed criticism from people unnecessarily worried about md5 checksums.

  • Spack Package Manager v0.21.0
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 12 Nov 2023
  • Show HN: FlakeHub – Discover and publish Nix flakes
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 22 Aug 2023
  • Nixhub: Search Historical Versions of Nix Packages
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 20 Jul 2023
    [1] https://github.com/spack/spack/blob/develop/var/spack/repos/...
  • Cython 3.0 Released
    4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 18 Jul 2023
    In Spack [1] we can express all these constraints for the dependency solver, and we also try to always re-cythonize sources. The latter is because bundled cythonized files are sometimes forward incompatible with Python, so it's better to just regenerate those with an up to date cython.

    [1] https://github.com/spack/spack/

  • Linux server for physics simulations
    1 project | /r/linux | 7 Jul 2023
    You want to look at the tools used for HPC systems, these are generally very well tried and tested and can be setup for single machine usage. Remote access - we use ssh, but web interfaces such as Open On Demand exist - https://openondemand.org/. For managing Jobs, Slurm is currently the most popular option - https://slurm.schedmd.com/documentation.html. For a module system (to load software and libraries per user), Spack is a great - https://spack.io/. You might also want to consider containerisation options, https://apptainer.org/ is a good option.
  • Simplest way to get latest gcc for any platform ?
    3 projects | /r/cpp | 31 May 2023
    git clone https://github.com/spack/spack.git ./spack/bin/spack install gcc

What are some alternatives?

When comparing impermanence and spack you can also consider the following projects:

home-manager - Manage a user environment using Nix [maintainer=@rycee] [Moved to: https://github.com/nix-community/home-manager]

HomeBrew - 🍺 The missing package manager for macOS (or Linux)

nix-config - Nix configurations

nixpkgs - Nix Packages collection & NixOS

nixpkgs - My Nix system configs!

nix-processmgmt - Experimental Nix-based process management framework

nix-config - :space_invader: NixOS configuration

Ansible - Ansible is a radically simple IT automation platform that makes your applications and systems easier to deploy and maintain. Automate everything from code deployment to network configuration to cloud management, in a language that approaches plain English, using SSH, with no agents to install on remote systems. https://docs.ansible.com.

raspi-overlayroot - Protect your SD card against wear and tear

ohpc - OpenHPC Integration, Packaging, and Test Repo

dotfiles - My personal dotfiles

NixOS-docker - DEPRECATED! Dockerfiles to package Nix in a minimal docker container