simple-proxy-for-tavern VS SillyTavern

Been using 1.9 for a while now, but heard about all the nice new extras in 1.1 so I decided to upgrade today. Silly me! Well ST Itself is running fine I've got that up no issues, extras is installed and koboldcpp is up to date...but it won't connect ST to KCPP. That being https://github.com/anon998/simple-proxy-for-tavern. It's worked like a dream for weeks up until today when I went to update and now the two can't talk. I did a fresh git pull of a new version - nothing. Rolled back to 1.9.7 - and it works like a charm. Anyone else had these issues?

https://github.com/anon998/simple-proxy-for-tavern/issues/25 It threw this error at me for a moment when I tried open AI, but not when running my Local LLM Via Kobold.

Still, nothing beats the SillyTavern + simple-proxy-for-tavern setup for me. But currently there's even a known issue with that and koboldcpp regarding sampler order used in the proxy presets (PR for fix is waiting to be merged, until it's merged, manually changing the presets may be required).

I’m using this https://github.com/anon998/simple-proxy-for-tavern

SillyTavern is just a frontend so it's as fast or slow as your backend. With simple-proxy-for-tavern you can use llama.cpp directly, no Python involved, so SillyTavern will be as fast as llama.cpp itself.

I also use the simple-proxy-for-tavern in between koboldcpp and the frontend, which does some magic behind the scenes to improve things further. Takes some time to understand and configure it all, but once done, it's definitely worth the effort, as nothing beats that setup for roleplaying and chat.

Really? Then we definitely have different experiences (or different ways to interact) with Guanaco. It's been the most unrestricted model I've tried, and I tried them all, but I'm using SillyTavern and the simple-proxy-for-tavern which combined with a little prompting liberates basically any model.

Why reinvent the wheel? Just use SillyTavern, ideally with the simple-proxy-for-tavern. That does it all, and more.

Right, but it's certainly easier for people who might not even know what "API" stands for, and that's quite nifty. As far as self-hosted frontends go, I can personally recommend SillyTavern[1] in the browser, ChatterUI[2] on mobile, and ShellGPT[3] for CLI. LobeChat looks pretty cool, though! I'll definitely check it out.

[1] https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern

[2] https://github.com/Vali-98/ChatterUI

[3] https://github.com/TheR1D/shell_gpt

I don't think there is any enumeration for {{char}} macros. Here is some good discussion on the subject.

As for SillyTavern, you need the main SillyTavern frontend and SillyTavern-extras (for TTS, STT, etc.) They're pretty easy to install. SillyTavern connects to oobabooga and SillyTavern-extras via API.

Finally, no matter what backend I use, I need it to be compatible with my power-user frontend, SillyTavern. That way I always use the same UI, with the characters I created and extensions I want, e. g. web search, XTTS text-to-speech and Whisper speech recognition for real-time voice chat - and all of that local!

SillyTavern v1.10.5 frontend (not the latest as I don't want to upgrade mid-test)