simple-proxy-for-tavern VS SillyTavern-Extras

Been using 1.9 for a while now, but heard about all the nice new extras in 1.1 so I decided to upgrade today. Silly me! Well ST Itself is running fine I've got that up no issues, extras is installed and koboldcpp is up to date...but it won't connect ST to KCPP. That being https://github.com/anon998/simple-proxy-for-tavern. It's worked like a dream for weeks up until today when I went to update and now the two can't talk. I did a fresh git pull of a new version - nothing. Rolled back to 1.9.7 - and it works like a charm. Anyone else had these issues?

https://github.com/anon998/simple-proxy-for-tavern/issues/25 It threw this error at me for a moment when I tried open AI, but not when running my Local LLM Via Kobold.

Still, nothing beats the SillyTavern + simple-proxy-for-tavern setup for me. But currently there's even a known issue with that and koboldcpp regarding sampler order used in the proxy presets (PR for fix is waiting to be merged, until it's merged, manually changing the presets may be required).

I’m using this https://github.com/anon998/simple-proxy-for-tavern

SillyTavern is just a frontend so it's as fast or slow as your backend. With simple-proxy-for-tavern you can use llama.cpp directly, no Python involved, so SillyTavern will be as fast as llama.cpp itself.

I also use the simple-proxy-for-tavern in between koboldcpp and the frontend, which does some magic behind the scenes to improve things further. Takes some time to understand and configure it all, but once done, it's definitely worth the effort, as nothing beats that setup for roleplaying and chat.

Really? Then we definitely have different experiences (or different ways to interact) with Guanaco. It's been the most unrestricted model I've tried, and I tried them all, but I'm using SillyTavern and the simple-proxy-for-tavern which combined with a little prompting liberates basically any model.

Why reinvent the wheel? Just use SillyTavern, ideally with the simple-proxy-for-tavern. That does it all, and more.

As for SillyTavern, you need the main SillyTavern frontend and SillyTavern-extras (for TTS, STT, etc.) They're pretty easy to install. SillyTavern connects to oobabooga and SillyTavern-extras via API.

Sure, best bet is to follow the instructions on the ST extra's github. It gives a good step by step guide to setting up and running all the addon's. Here is a link in case you need it. https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern-extras

oobazz + SillyTavern

If you want the best roleplaying experience, I can only recommend SillyTavern with SillyTavern/SillyTavern-extras. The extras include summarization and ChromaDB, both helping to get longer and more coherent chats.

If you haven't already, I sugget you to instal SillyTavern Extra which you can add objective with task, character expression ( personally I generate expression with stable diffusion), and text to speech to diffrent character. You can also set a group scenario if you create group.

Instead, I use the summarize extension for SillyTavern, which is serviceable: https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern-extras

It doesn't have to be the end. Do what I'm doing and get SillyTavern, use their extension (for expressive sprites), open an OAI account, create some Umineko bots, import your own sprites, and start chatting with them. There's been a lot of advancements in AI visual novel tech. Here's me and the UI's creator in a 5-way group chat with the Quintessential Quintuplets.

The sillytavern-extras: https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern-extras Classify-extension handles expression, provided you have the pictures. The clever model mentioned in the readme can handle 28 different expressions. It evaluates *while generating* so it can change the pic of 'current speaker', so it'll change as speakers change. I've not spent much time with the group chat, so I never figured out how to do it like it was meant to. BTW, of extras, chromadb is cool, look into it.